![]() ![]() This is probably a real "old man yells at cloud" moment by most respects, but watching their behavior in recent years frustrates and disappoints me. The freshness and uniqueness of the desktop is dead, all we're left with now is a lame Mac clone that can't even play nice with the rest of the community. In general, everything GNOME-related after Unity has just been a really slow downhill decline. ![]() It's really petty, and it certainly isn't moving desktop Linux forward. Stuff like app tray indicators have been completely depreciated on a system level solely because GNOME said they didn't want them. This has been disastrous to the development cycle of Wayland, and ended up splintering the wrong projects and blocking the right features. I'm willing to point the finger squarely at GNOME here too, because they've intentionally gimped Wayland's development over the years under the guise that they're the lead implementation, while giving the rest of the community the pittance of wlroots. Wayland is going to have a hard time being "the new standard" if it continues down it's path of less hardware compatibility, less software compatibility and less overall functionality. That's simply unacceptable for a software project that's 10 years in the making. GNOME, Sway, and especially KDE are still playing catch-up with x11 functionality. It's resulted in a scenario where two and a half desktops actually support Wayland, and even those don't have feature-complete implementations. Wayland apologists will claim "that's the point", which I would be willing to agree with if the development of things like Mutter and wlroots weren't so spread apart. Frankly, I don't think Wayland has the functionality to support what people want to do on Desktop Linux. I mostly agree with everything you've said here. IMHO a few sketchy efforts based on GNOME and KDE are not really enough. It is the entire herd of elephants stampeding about the room. _Someone_ in the Linux world needed to address mobile/tablets. Eliminating one big chunk of it seems like a win to me.Īpparently not to them: they pressed ahead and then abandoned the whole thing.ĭamned shame. Trying to write a new WM _and_ a new desktop _and_ a mobile OS _and_ a new packaging format _and_ a new display server was a big stretch. But like systemd, it is basically the new standard, and so going with it would have been pragmatic. Wayland remains controversial, and I'm not qualified to judge why. IMHO Canonical's only big mistake, really, was Mir. There's more to life than the Win95 desktop. Unity was and is a damned good desktop, it's just different. Yes, it does seem mired in dev hell, and I wonder how much is really left to do.Ĭanonical got a lot of stick, especially on here, about Unity etc. That was in Qt and seems to be forgotten now. Is it now? I wonder if it's a descendant of Unity-2D then. > And unity8 (now Lomri) is in perpetual beta, and written in Qt. > It however didn’t seem to make the move to Wayland… At home I switched to Linux and try to become the maker of my own joy. I still run a Mac at work cause the company only supports windows and Mac. But the software broke under me as well with the introduction of Catalina. It started with the 2017 MacBook I got from work (the worst machine I ever had to use) This was only hardware. Updates later and I don’t feel like this anymore. Everything was just working and I actually felt real joy. I switched to Mac myself and it was such a joy ride. I convinced my wife to buy a MacBook and bought the Snow Leopard update. I thought wow this looks and feels so much cooler than my ugly windows XP/Vista. It took years and then I saw a machine running leopard and the coverflow in Finder etc. I tried out macOS-X in the school Labs and the only piece of software I actually liked was iTunes (I know weird). ![]() In the early 2000th when I was introduced to Apple Macs (G3 iMac MacOS9) I couldn’t understand who wanted to work with these machines. ![]()
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